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Came gates stuck open. - Ring8180 - 07-05-2018

Hi I wondered if anyone can help?
I have a set of came swing gates which have been working perfectly until today.
They open fine on the fob or internal switch, but will not close automatically. When you press the fob to close them they seem to move 6 inches to close but then 're open. I have disabled the photo cell and have even changed the wiring around on the arm motors to see if they will close (which they do), but then obviously won't 're open, the pcb is a za3. 
I appreciate any help 
Thanks in advance Martin.


RE: Came gates stuck open. - Automatic-TC - 07-05-2018

hi

that could be issue with power force or problem with capacitors

1 )to set power force higher you have to move conector on transformator from position 1 to 2,3,4, max
2)change capacitors for new one if older then 4 years

regards


RE: Came gates stuck open. - Androidus - 30-01-2023

(07-05-2018, 07:37 AM)Ring8180 Wrote: Hi I wondered if anyone can help?
I have a set of came swing gates which have been working perfectly until today.
They open fine on the fob or internal switch, but will not close automatically. When you press the fob to close them they seem to move 6 inches to close but then 're open. I have disabled the photo cell and have even changed the wiring around on the arm motors to see if they will close (which they do), but then obviously won't 're open, the pcb is a za3. 
I appreciate any help 
Thanks in advance Martin.

Hi Martin,

I seem to have the same problem, any chance you can share what was the issue?

Just to add to the detail, in my case i eliminated all sensors and even took the link to the leaf out. I also reversed the brown and black wires and i could see that the motor turns with every press of the key but when it supposed to turn the other direction it doesn't, in fact it rotates in the same direction as before, however this could be the residual charge of the capacitor, not sure if the last bit is valid, can't say i know enough about the electrical arrangement. 
Tested the capacitors and perfectly fine: 15.8uF on a 16uF rated capacitor. 


Regards.


RE: Came gates stuck open. - Ring8180 - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 12:08 AM)Androidus Wrote:
(07-05-2018, 07:37 AM)Ring8180 Wrote: Hi I wondered if anyone can help?
I have a set of came swing gates which have been working perfectly until today.
They open fine on the fob or internal switch, but will not close automatically. When you press the fob to close them they seem to move 6 inches to close but then 're open. I have disabled the photo cell and have even changed the wiring around on the arm motors to see if they will close (which they do), but then obviously won't 're open, the pcb is a za3. 
I appreciate any help 
Thanks in advance Martin.

Hi Martin,

I seem to have the same problem, any chance you can share what was the issue?

Just to add to the detail, in my case i eliminated all sensors and even took the link to the leaf out. I also reversed the brown and black wires and i could see that the motor turns with every press of the key but when it supposed to turn the other direction it doesn't, in fact it rotates in the same direction as before, however this could be the residual charge of the capacitor, not sure if the last bit is valid, can't say i know enough about the electrical arrangement. 
Tested the capacitors and perfectly fine: 15.8uF on a 16uF rated capacitor. 


Regards.



RE: Came gates stuck open. - Ring8180 - 30-01-2023

Hi Androidus,
My problem was the wires into the Pcb had worn and were shorting.
I originally changed the capacitors and it made no difference.
It was only when I took the cover off the pcb i noticed the outer casing on two wires had worn
I hope you manage to sort it
Martin
P.s if you do manage to sort it, perhaps post on here
What the problem was, that way it may help someone else.


RE: Came gates stuck open. - SamA - 03-02-2023

(30-01-2023, 03:14 PM)Ring8180 Wrote: Hi Androidus,
My problem was the wires into the Pcb had worn and were shorting.
I originally changed the capacitors and it made no difference.
It was only when I took the cover off the pcb i noticed the outer casing on two wires had worn
I hope you manage to sort it
Martin
P.s if you do manage to sort it, perhaps post on here
What the problem was, that way it may help someone else.

Hi,

These boards are very basic, if you have changed the capacitors and disconnected the photocells (turned parameter off). I would recommend taking out all accessories wired in. Relearning the timed learning sequence and then reintegrating all the accessories one by one until you get rid of the fault/identify which accessory is causing the issue.

Sam.


RE: Came gates stuck open. - Androidus - 14-02-2023

Hi Martin,

All is fine again, it was one of the sensors. In my case when i said i eliminated all the sensors for troubleshooting i didn't put a jumper where i should've done. Anyway, as Sam mentioned reduce the board to its basic function and then check its functionality.


RE: Came gates stuck open. - SamA - 23-02-2023

(14-02-2023, 11:22 PM)Androidus Wrote: Hi Martin,

All is fine again, it was one of the sensors. In my case when i said i eliminated all the sensors for troubleshooting i didn't put a jumper where i should've done. Anyway, as Sam mentioned reduce the board to its basic function and then check its functionality.

Thank you for clarifying Androidus Smile

Sam.